This past week I saw a bit of a buzz about males in college. It started with a link on Marginal Revolutions asking the question, Why are fewer men going to college? (10/11/2024) The link was to an article: Why aren't we talking about the real reason male college enrollment is dropping? (10/6/2024) This is worth reading from the Substack Matriarchal Blessing. Notice right away that the two questions aren’t exactly the same. Going to college isn’t the same as college enrollment. In comes Drum with his post: Men are still going to college. (10/11/2024) Drum provides data showing that the percentage of males enrolling in college hasn’t changed.
Noahpinion then picks up on this in his five interesting things post. (10/13/2024) He notes that he is skeptical of the Matriarchal Blessing explanation: “Her theory is that men are avoiding college in order to avoid women.” He then notes:
I’m incredibly skeptical of this theory, for two reasons. First, although there have been some recent small ups and downs, most of the shift to more women going to college actually happened long ago:
The goal here is to try and shed some light on all the data statistics and clarify what is true and what is ignored, while being much more careful with language. Let’s go to the data.
Entering College
I’ll start with Drum’s assertion that the rate of men going to college hasn’t changed. Figure 1 is the same data as in his post. He added the black regression line for men for the time period 1994 to 2022. The slope is 0, and he is correct in saying that over the last 30 years the percentage of men going to a 4-year college has been the same.
I added the regression line for women from 1994 to 2022. The slope is 0.16, meaning that the percentage of women going to a 4-year college has been increasing by 0.16 percentage points a year, or 1.6 points over 10 years.
Yes, male 4-year college going rates have been stable, meaning we don’t have fewer men, as a percentage, not going to 4-year colleges. But we can’t simply ignore the difference here. The question here really should be why men aren’t going to college at the same increasing rate as women, remaining stagnant while women’s rates have been increasing. The effect here is certainly that the college campus is going to be majority female, assuming roughly the same numbers going to college. What does campus look like?
In College
Figure 2 is undegraduate enrolment full or part time at 2 or 4 year colleges. Women became the majority on campus in 1980, and the spread increased until 2005. Is 2005 long ago? I suppose but notice the spread started increasing again in 2017. Focusing on percentage hides some information, though.
Figure 3 is undegraduate enrollment, both full and part time. Enrollment has been dropping since 2010. I added regression lines from 2010 to 2021 to point out that the decline has been faster for men than women, with on average 20,000 fewer men than women per year. I’m counting everyone here, both full-time and part-time students, and not just favoring full-time students at 4-year colleges. The differences between men and women are ongoing and didn’t just happen a long time ago.
To complete the picture a bit, I separated out full-time and part-time students in Figures 4 and 5. The part-time differences are bigger between men and women than full-time. What about outcomes?
Graduating College
Going to college can help, but not graduating often leaves a student in debt and with no better job prospects. Figure 6 is the percentage of men and women graduating with a 4-year degree. The differences separated from 1980 to 2000 and remained about the same. One would think that the gap here, 57% vs 43%, would be concern enough but it has received little attention. Worse, the gap started growing around 2015, slowly at first, to where it is now. Some of this is due to enrollment rates out of high school, but some must also be due to not completing college.
Conclusions
There are disparities between men and women in terms of both attending college and completing college. The fact that women attend college at increasingly higher rates than men is a reasonable concern, even though men’s rates have been stable. Asking, Why are fewer men going to college? is simply a poorly asked question. Drum is correct in that fewer men aren’t going to college, but I think misses the real point.
Noahpinion is largely correct in that the growth in disparities happened largely before 2005, but he overstates his case when he says
Women have been more common at college for four decades. And yet for those four decades the gender ratio was stable, with no mass exodus of men. That immediately throws cold water on Celeste Davis’ theory that men run away from college once it becomes female-coded.
The graph he shows does have an increasing difference for the last five years, although it ends in 2019, and so he misses some of the changes after that that we see here. Finally, he says this
The other reason I’m highly skeptical of Davis’ theory is that if there’s one thing 18-year-old guys tend to want, it’s to be around girls. Young Americans may be having less sex these days, but I find it hard to believe that the basic motivations of young men have been reversed to that great a degree.
His link here has data for 18-30 year olds with a meaningful decline in no sex, but it may or may not reflect the habits of traditional college-age students, and I’ll simply say that “I find it hard to believe” isn’t exactly convincing. He dismisses Celeste Davis of Matriarchal Blessing with very little evidence and ignores a number of other points made in the article. The article overstates the male flight from college, but if we take it more as men not increasingly going to college as women, then we, or really Matriarchal Blessing, has a stronger case. Meanwhile the flight from certain disciplines is real (I’ll have to find good data on this). The post is worth reading, and the notion of a tipping point as noted with this quote shouldn’t be ignored.
Morty Schapiro, economist and former president of Northwestern University has noticed this trend when studying college enrollment numbers across universities:
“There’s a cliff you fall off once you become 60/40 female/male. It then becomes exponentially more difficult to recruit men.”
The article provides examples of this occurring in many disciplines such as biology, teaching, nursing, cheerleading, social work, architecture, gymnastics, library sciences, and psychology.
In the end, I don’t favor singular reasons as explanations, but Celeste Davis makes a worthwhile point that could certainly be part of, if not all of, the explanation of the lack of males in college.
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The whole debate somewhat misses Celeste's main argument. It is annoying nit-picking, really, and bespeaks deficiencies in reading comprehension and ability to distinguish the important from the trivial.
Celeste claims that 60-40 is a tipping point.* Changes are gradual and small before that tipping point is reached. She says that 60-40 has now finally been reached, so in the next five or ten years we should see much more dramatic rates of change than we have seen over the last 40 years. That is the thesis of her essay. The other contributions may have been useful if they had shown gross error in her assumptions, but as you explain here, they did not. Not even minor error, really.
We need to revisit this in '29 or '30 to see whether Celeste was right or not in her main claim.
* More precisely, I suppose, she claims that somewhere in the neighbourhood of 60 F - 40 M there is a tipping point at which male participation collapses. The exact point may vary depending on the nature of the occupation.
Can't this be explained by the IQ distributions of men and women? Although men and women have similar mean IQs, the male distribution have fatter tails while female median IQ is higher.
If you need diligent people of average and slightly above average IQs, they would be majority women. This demographic can do most college degrees like teaching, nursing and library sciences.
But the highest IQ college degrees like physicists are still dominated by males.