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Frank's avatar

"The media frequently uses data in ways that are superficial, incomplete, or potentially misleading. Briefed by Data aims to provide complete and accurate data-informed articles about current events, as well as to promote data literacy."

100% correct. When it comes to men's issues. they do that constantly.

Conrad Chua's avatar

do we know if there is an increase in median income households sending their kids to private colleges that cost more?

Thomas J. Pfaff's avatar

I don't know. What I think is true, mostly from Selingo's newsletter https://jeffselingo.com/ , is that even families that have the money are opting more for the value of a public college over a private college. I like more clear data on this.

Conrad Chua's avatar

In the U.K., domestic undergrad fees have been frozen nominally for years so an actual decrease in fees in real terms. But the issues are more about low graduate salaries leading to poor ROI and for many, the high cost of student loan debt.

Matt L's avatar

Many more people are going to college. At the same time, I would argue there is a fixed amount of mainly white collar professional jobs that give an adequate return on investment for a 4 year college degrees. Also, the biggest college debt issues are usually students who go to grad schools and either pick majors with very poor ROI or poor quality schools and sometimes both

Thomas J. Pfaff's avatar

Overall, the college population has been shrinking and is expected to decline further with fewer 18-year-olds.

Here is some data to back up the point on ROI: https://briefedbydata.substack.com/p/is-college-worth-it

Yes, the biggest debt is grad school, but I do think we have lower-income students/families borrowing significant money to attend college.

Matt L's avatar

Correct, that was the main issue with college for all under the Obama years. It does not make sense for everyone to go to college.

Peter's avatar

”Staying local can cut costs ” - the problem here is that e.g. California state universities have funding shortages which they ”solve” by rejecting in-state applicants and favoring out-of-state students. Result: Oregon universities are full of Californians and California universities full of Oregonians. Everybody pays a LOT more, but technically tuition hasn’t gone up.

Thomas J. Pfaff's avatar

Good point. I do know some of the Southeast states are starting to restrict how many students public colleges can accept from out of state. I need to get some data to see how this has changed over time. Thanks.