Is the large black male homicide rate primarily from gang activity?
Do we have the data to go that granular?
I have seen some people on the left try to argue these disparities away because there are those on the right that sometimes seem like they revel in them.
It was, say, yes, largely gang and related criminal activity. I think cities have locations of homicides that show which neighborhoods they are more likely located in, which may correlate to gang or other criminal activity. That might be the best we have, but maybe there is more detailed data out there.
Yeah, I know. Don't say anything the right might enjoy somehow. Ignoring the truth is, IMHO, just a bad idea. There are two very distinct problems here focused on two different groups (also likely where they live and related socioeconomics). Neither one is solved by pretending guns can be banned someday. They both need different types of interventions.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure the right would revel in the white suicide rate.
Thanks for the article. When I've heard the Black/White homicide/suicide disparity discussed, it was discussed as if many of these deaths have a similar underlying cause and different manifestation. Specifically, there is a hypothesis that for men who reach a point where they become self-destructive, this becomes overt self-harm in most communities, but in (predominantly Black) communities with chronic violence, this becomes choosing a path that is self-destructive in the long term, e.g., criminal lifestyles.
I don't know enough about the topic to know if there is any evidence for this hypothesis or if it's a just-so story that social scientists like to tell themselves.
That's interesting, but I'm not sure if it is true. Males tend to become less destructive as they age, and I think suicide occurs somewhat at an older age. You just gave me the topic for Tuesday. The CDC data is broken down by age, and we can look at suicide and homicide by Black and White by age. It might give some insight into the hypothesis.
Is the large black male homicide rate primarily from gang activity?
Do we have the data to go that granular?
I have seen some people on the left try to argue these disparities away because there are those on the right that sometimes seem like they revel in them.
It was, say, yes, largely gang and related criminal activity. I think cities have locations of homicides that show which neighborhoods they are more likely located in, which may correlate to gang or other criminal activity. That might be the best we have, but maybe there is more detailed data out there.
Yeah, I know. Don't say anything the right might enjoy somehow. Ignoring the truth is, IMHO, just a bad idea. There are two very distinct problems here focused on two different groups (also likely where they live and related socioeconomics). Neither one is solved by pretending guns can be banned someday. They both need different types of interventions.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure the right would revel in the white suicide rate.
Thanks for the article. When I've heard the Black/White homicide/suicide disparity discussed, it was discussed as if many of these deaths have a similar underlying cause and different manifestation. Specifically, there is a hypothesis that for men who reach a point where they become self-destructive, this becomes overt self-harm in most communities, but in (predominantly Black) communities with chronic violence, this becomes choosing a path that is self-destructive in the long term, e.g., criminal lifestyles.
I don't know enough about the topic to know if there is any evidence for this hypothesis or if it's a just-so story that social scientists like to tell themselves.
That's interesting, but I'm not sure if it is true. Males tend to become less destructive as they age, and I think suicide occurs somewhat at an older age. You just gave me the topic for Tuesday. The CDC data is broken down by age, and we can look at suicide and homicide by Black and White by age. It might give some insight into the hypothesis.